For Sale: 2010 Mobile Suites and a 2008 Ford F450

Terry and Jo

Terry and Jo

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[FONT=&quot]Considering our age, we have decided to look into the possibility of stopping the full-time RV living and look at other options. So, with some misgivings, we are offering up our 2010 Mobile Suites and 2008 Ford F450 for sale. Let's begin with information on the fifth wheel. Also, there is additional information at the very end that is important to any potential buyer, so be sure and look at the "Disclaimer" at the end.[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Mobile Suites Fifth Wheel Trailer[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Mobile Suites Package[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Décor - Chestnut BlueWood Décor - Suite Oak[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Hallmark Vinyl Plank Flooring in Living/Dining Area and Hallway (Aftermarket Mod)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Oak Faux Wood Blinds in Living and Dining Area (Aftermarket Mod)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Interior - Built-In Fireplace[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Entertainment - 32" LCD HDTV[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Home Theatre w/Surround Sound Package (Blue-Ray DVD Aftermarket Mod)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]32" Sony LCD HDTV[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Samsung 17 CU FT Residential Refrigerator (Aftermarket Mod)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]GE Advantium Microwave/Convection Oven[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3 Burner Range w/ storage underneath (Aftermarket Mod)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Hardwood Dinette Buffet with drawers/storage (Aftermarket Mod)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Prepped for Washer/Dryer[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Prepped for Generator[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Extreme Smart Sensor Water Pump[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Queen Bed Suite[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Sleep Number Bed by Select Comfort[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Tub/Shower Combo[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]15K BTU AC Ducted Lo/Pro Both Front and Rear[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Heat Pump in Front AC[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Heat Pump in Rear AC[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Comfort Air, Rain Sensor/Remote-Kitchen[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Comfort Air, Rain Sensor/Remote-Bedroom[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Hunter 5-Blade Ceiling Fan with Light Kit (Aftermarket Mod)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Xantrex 3000 Watt Inverter w/4 Batteries (THIS IS A TRUE SINE WAVE INVERTER)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Power Management Syste[FONT=&quot]m[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Whole House Built In Surge Protect.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Progressive Industries Power Protection EMS HW50C Hard-wired (Aftermarket Mod)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Canadian All-Weather Package (Two 30,000 btu furnaces, heated holding tanks, additional insulation around sewer plumbing)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]17.5" H Spare Tire w/Carrier[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Hydraulic Rear Stabilizer Jacks[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]"Level Up" Side to Side Level. System[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Monroe Gas Magnum Shocks[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Wireless Remote System (Although not something I was comfortable with using. Operates Slides and hydraulic jacks)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Trail Air C/P w/Air Ride Pin Box with Tri-Glide Anti-chucking System[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2" Boat Hitch Receiver & Wiring[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4-Step Entry IPO 3-Step[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Weather Pro Awning w/Weathershield[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Weather Pro Dinette Slide Patio Awning[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Roof Rack & Detachable Ladder[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Thermopane Windows[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]100 Gallon Fresh Water Tank[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 75 Gallon Gray Water Tank[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 50 Gallon Black Water Tank[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 12 Gallon Hot Water Heater[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Beefed up rear end for towing[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]8000 lb axles with sealed bearings[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Kodiak disc brakes (Electric over hydraulic system.)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Pinless hydraulic landing gear[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Frameless safety glass windows[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]All weather package[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Water manifold[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Equa-flex Suspension by Trail-Air[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]R-29 floor, R-25 Roof, R-16 Sidewalls[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]15” Triple box channel frame[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Hydraulic slide outs with select push button controls[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3 ¼” thick sidewalls[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Storm/screen door[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]17.5 H tires[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Power TV Antenna[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]80 Amp 12 VDC converter (Not certain this is actually there. I presumed that the Xantrex inverter was also a converter.)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Custom Painted exterior graphics[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]High gloss gel-coat fiberglass exterior[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Soft-vinyl ceiling[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]LED exterior lights[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Plywood floors[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]LED Lighting in Most Interior Lights (Non-Dimmable) (Aftermarket Mod)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Miles towed: 5700 miles[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]2008 Ford F450[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]King Ranch package[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Equipped with a 6.4L diesel engine, automatic transmission with Tow/Haul feature, and 4.88 rear differential ratio. The truck is a two-wheel drive vehicle and will include a 22,000 lb capacity Reese fifth wheel hitch (already installed).[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Current mileage on the truck is roughly 64,000 miles. The truck has been faithfully maintained with regards to oil changes and had new tires installed in June of 2018. (Roughly 1500 miles on the tires.) This is a two-owner vehicle with the first owner only having the truck for one year. We purchased the truck in the fall of 2009 and it had 46,000 miles on it at the time.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Being a King Ranch version of the truck, it has cowhide leather seats (meaning a much heavier leather than most seats.) It also has a rear DVD player and screen with two sets of headphones (never used.)[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Disclaimer and Additional Information[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]The main thing with regards to a disclaimer is that we have priced the Mobile Suites at a low price due to axle issues. The trailer is equipped with two 8000 pound axles with Lippert Never-Lube bearings and axles. Two of those bearings (both on one axle) have begun to show leakage, and since parts are no longer available for the Lippert Never-Lube hubs, new axles will be needed. Additionally, the tires are in good shape, although they are getting along in age. I have not seen any evidence of cracking of the tires, but they will probably be needing to be replaced within about a year.[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]We have priced the Mobile Suites at $48,000 and the Ford F450 is priced at $35,000.[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]The truck will not be sold separately unless the Mobile Suites has already been purchased.[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Additionally, there is the distinct possibility that the Honda EU3000iS portable generator will also be included in the sale (said generator is about 15 years old but still in good condition). I should also add that some things that we currently have in the RV may be included in the sale, such as some RV parts and other items of interest to the buyer(s) that we will no longer need.[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Other options for any buyer(s) would be that they may choose to accept or decline the furniture currently in the fifth wheel. Those include the Select Comfort mattress (some folks don't like them), the La-Z-Boy Reclinaway love seat recliner, and a jack-knife couch in the rear of the coach. Anything that the buyer(s) decline will be used to furnish an apartment for us.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Link to Pictures of Mobile Suites and Ford F450[/FONT]
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Terry, For your information the bearings are available from etrailer. They are a Chinese bearing but are available. I bought one from them, to have a spare just incase one failed out on the road. The hubs are NOT available. Walt
 
I would get the bearings replaced before trying to sell it with the idea of the new owner first thing having to replace the axles. I think the bearings are available from more sources than just eTrailer, but certainly eTrailer makes it easy to find them.
Surprised to hear you are going back to house living--have followed you ever since you got the Suites. We went FT May '17.
Best of luck to you with the sale and change of livestyle.
Joe
 
Slade at Rolling Retreats was the one that did the checking for parts for the Lippert Never-Lube bearings. Now, I don't know where he checked, but etrailer was mentioned, and he was told that the "source" ran out of both hubs and bearings about 6 months ago.


As for us not changing the axles prior to selling, we thought that any new owner might want the choice of axles that were installed. In addition to MorRyde, one can get axles with regular tapered bearings that one takes out and inspects and repacks, or there are axles by Dexter that have another form of Never-Lube bearing.


We will end the full-time RV'ing, but we are even now looking at smaller travel trailers that can be pulled with our Expedition. With that for an RV, we could still do some RV'ing, perhaps a couple of months in the Spring and a couple of months in the Fall. I'm not giving up on traveling and photographing the beauty we get to see.



As for photographing beauty, check out the Smugmug link in my signature to go to my Smugmug site. Click on "Browse" and you'll see folders and galleries and each folder has additional folders and galleries.



Terry
 
Terry, As far as I know the nerlube bearing fits both systems. I had a 2010 MS a few numbers from you and the one I bought from etrailer was the right one. Walt
 
Far as I know, there is only one NevRLube bearing for our trailers--the 50mm one. It was the one on my '05 w/7K axles and the same one on the 8k axles I replaced the 7ks with.
There is a 42mm bearing that isn't for our Suites at all.
And there is no way to put regular bearings on a NRL axle.
 
Next question:


Where are you finding these bearings?



Also, one of the things I did discover with regards to hubs was that they were definitely out of the hubs for the 17 1/2" wheels. (We were going to just order hubs and replace those.) So, are those 50mm bearings ones for a 17 1/2" wheel hubs?


Terry
 
I did the same thing--replaced the 16s with 17.5s--same hubs, but they were the electric brakes.
 
oldbird said:
I run them with 17.5 tires and rims when my MS came with 16" wheels.

https://www.easternmarine.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=50mm+never+lube+bearing
Click to expand...


That link is taking me to a site with bearings for Dexter. So, I guess the next question is whether the Lippert axles on our Suites has Dexter hubs or not. I'm not in a position to want to spend $300 to $600 on bearings that won't fit.


I have to apologize because while I know you guys (for the most part) on the forums are pretty danged knowledgeable, but I'm still skeptical. Should I be crawling under there again and finding any numbers on the hubs instead of the axles? The labels on the axles themselves definitely state "Lippert," so I don't know if Lippert used Dexter hubs in 2010.



Terry
 
Terry, Just buy the 50MM bearings and have someone or Slade install them. As someone said it is the SAME bearing for either hubs. No need to buy new hubs. Installing new bearings, I feel, would be a better way to sell your trailer rather than tell a buyer that they'll have to deal with new axles. I faced this same issue but decided to trade it in on a new 2019, which I did. I got a 36' instead of a 32' and got many new features that the 2010 didn't have. Walt
 
I feel the same as Walt above--the NRLs/50mm are the same whether Lippert or Dexter axles--and I think there is now a connection between the 2 companies. Remember that the bearings need to be pressed out/in--much harder to hammer them out without damage like the old school ways we did back when...

Terry,
Here is another thought: my NRLs on the '05 showed a small amount of grease on the back side for a long time--had them replaced before a trip to AK. All 4 bearings proved to be good upon removal, even tho there was signs of grease on the wheels. The only mentioned method of checking the NRLs is vertical movement with weight off the wheel--movement of 1/4? in/out is indication of wear. There is a stated movement distance somewhere on the web, not sure it is 1/4"
You have very low miles for the age, I think you may have a non-problem.
 
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Kevin at Kodiak told me a small amount of grease is normal on the back side. When you start seeing MORE grease it's time to replace!
 
OK. Here is what I'm seeing that concerns me. The "leakage" is on the wheel and not on the back side of the hub. The one wheel looks cleaner than the other, but I was thinking that both were close to the same. We did have some pretty high winds here in Oklahoma a week or so ago, so the wind might have scoured off some of the grease.


Both leaking hubs are on the same axle, with this first picture being on the door side of the coach.





This is the wheel on the off-door side.





I was in touch with a mobile RV repair guy here this morning, and he gave me the name and number of a guy that will "press off/press on" bearings at the person's site. I think I'll call him and sound him out with the issue. I really would like to get the repair done with just bearings and not have to replace axles.


Thanks, Guys.
 
Terry,
With the age of the bearings, I think you are well-served to consider the replacement. I said earlier you might not have a problem, but best to head it off before selling it.
Hope you can get the project done without to big a hassle.
Joe
 
Terry,
With the age of the bearings, I think you are well-served to consider the replacement. I said earlier you might not have a problem, but best to head it off before selling it.
Hope you can get the project done without to big a hassle.
Joe
 
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