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Old 01-07-2016, 03:23 PM   #21
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Glenn, what kind of pipe do you weld? Plant turnarounds? Or cross country pipe lays?
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Old 01-07-2016, 03:26 PM   #22
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Mostly turnarounds. We also do some new construction. We "bail out" others.
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Old 01-07-2016, 06:43 PM   #23
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I spent a few years in the pipeline business, and several years doing pipeline construction. Different location, but similar standards. We tested to 1104.
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Old 01-07-2016, 06:54 PM   #24
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Davidg,
Having had 2 6.4s, and yep, mileage in the 10-11 in town and 13-14 on hiway, with tuner and full delete.
I can only wish for your type mileage, and the money to buy a new '15/'16. Ford has a great engine now, they just need to concentrate on the fuel/water separator situation.
I'm a g-greatgrandpa, don't baby it and love the power. And love the price of diesel.
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Joe, I've heard a little chatter recently about fuel filtration on the 6.7. I guess it's especially crucial for this engine due to the expensive hpfp. What are folks doing in an effort to protect those critical components, and what are the real shortcomings of Fords system? I drain the fuel filter into a pint mason jar, let it sit overnight, and check it the next day. I have found no water nor any particulates in this fuel....ever. I realize that it only takes one time though. I think Dieselsite has an integral fuel filter, but they are proud of that puppy. ($700). Of course $700 might look cheap if one was presented with a bad hpfp and Ford nor the fuel source will own the problem.
I dunno, but I've been thinking about this lately, and I had wanted to pick your brain a little when you first mentioned it.

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Old 01-09-2016, 10:22 AM   #25
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David,
I have been giving a lot of thought to this--tho I don't have a newer engine, still worried about this vulnerability with the Ford diesels--particularly the fact that Ford continues to produce an engine that is sensitive to water contaminated fuel, but does not provide a system to sufficiently protect against it, then won't warranty when the HPFP grenades due to "water-in-fuel."
Yes, the Dieselsite unit looks good, also Fass/Airdog make separator units and others. Setting one up is my hangup, but will probably get my diesel shop to do it before long, as I do use an in-bed aux tank. Having said all this--I have a total of over 450000 miles on 6.0 and 6.4 engines without WIF failures, so I really have no personal reason to badmouth Ford over this particular situation--I did lose an engine over a rocker arm failure (another concern with the 6.4s) with my first 6.4 at 207k miles.
If I did not keep up with the Ford diesel forums, I would not be aware of any of this and would go about my merry way oblivious of the fact my engine might get some water in the fuel system...
Still a Ford guy, tho...

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Old 01-09-2016, 12:50 PM   #26
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Hey Joe, good information.
The reviews I've read on the FAS haven't been to good. Not sure about the Airdog. The unit from DieselSite have been favorable. It just bugs me to think I need to spend $700+ dollars to obtain the correct filtration. But we'll see. I'll study on it a while and continue to read up on the different aftermarket filters. My old company had special paper filters built that absorbed water, and would ultimately just shut down flow once their water retaining capacity had been reached, but zero water was allowed downstream of the filter. It wouldn't be expensive to install these type of stacked disc filters, and have a bypass filter to get you home or to dealer. But I suppose if this cost an extra $100, someone at Ford might think that would make them less competitive with the other two. Anyway, interesting discussion.
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Old 01-18-2016, 10:59 AM   #27
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Here is one most haven't heard before. My wife gets a headache from the electronics on the newer trucks. I use a internet satellite to 'try' to avoid wifi and leave my cell phone off most of the time. She can be in the bedroom with the door closed and I'll turn on my cell to check email or whatever and she will yell at me thru the door, without looking, to shut off my cell. Made a believer out of me.

No, I'm not off topic, I love my 7.3!!
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Old 01-18-2016, 09:08 PM   #28
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oldbird,
That is a tough deal, indeed.

davidg,
You don't want anything that cuts off fuel to the HPFP, bad deal. Running a 6.4/6.7 out of fuel can be way worse than just a priming problem, so I hear.
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