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Old 01-08-2012, 04:09 PM   #21
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Tire Change

In addition to jacking carefully, drive the good tire up onto some of your levelling blacks to make the jacking a whole lot easier.
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Old 02-03-2012, 11:04 AM   #22
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Just had my axles checked 01-31-12 by Tamps Spring and they were way out. They said they were out to much to align. Lippert is in the process of doing something about this issue. They need pics then they need measurements then they want more pics. This issue goes back to the June Rally where we first pulled it to. Gentry and gang at DRV are on top of things so I know it will be resolved. I will keep everyone posted.
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Old 02-03-2012, 07:12 PM   #23
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Pat L.....and what year is your rig ? How many miles, what kind of roads have you traveled ?

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Old 02-03-2012, 08:03 PM   #24
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Gemstone,
It is a 2010 MS TKSB4 that we bought new 1-13-11. When we first noticed the tire wear was the first trip to Tennessee for the Rally. Upon arrival I notified Dan Tauer of the problem. He along with Ryan Miller and Dale Fenton examined the issue and decided to install Straight Line Towing there at RV's For Less. It did not fix the problem. At that time it had a total of 900 miles. Roads consist of mostly I 75 and some local city streets. One trip down to the Keys but the roads are good. No back roads as I always worry about junk. The coach has less than 2500 miles now. This problem was from day one.
I understand that Lippert free hands construction of the axles and they are not built in a jig. This could account for the toe and camber being way out.
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Old 02-03-2012, 09:04 PM   #25
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Pat,

The folks at Tampa Spings are great. We had ours in there Jan 2011 and they were able to pull the axles and re-bend them. The fellow in charge is an old hand at this work. Even new axles right out of Dexter are not any good, According to him, he has had to send them back, or re-bend them before instaling. That is new ones. So we can see how we get a mess out of the factory.

Good luck, it looks like you will get results soon.

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Old 02-03-2012, 09:12 PM   #26
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Which location did you go to? I was at the Bradenton shop. They have 4 locations I think.

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Old 02-04-2012, 09:11 PM   #27
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:10 PM   #28
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Hope all went well for you PatL. I too had Tampa spring. Hope DRV does better for you with Lippert than they've done for me. I'm still out around $1000. Tom Peck keeps promising but no results. Saw Moryde on some DRVs at Tampa show Maybe someone will get smart and dump Lippert in future.
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:47 PM   #29
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You might have to take it to Highways Mag. and get their help. Just a thought. No one like any negative press.
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Old 02-05-2012, 05:29 PM   #30
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Pat L Good advice. So how did you do.
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Old 02-05-2012, 06:16 PM   #31
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What I really hate is paying made in USA prices for made in china quality
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Old 02-06-2012, 09:17 PM   #32
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axles

Waiting for Lippert to make their decision. I have not talked to the repair shop this week but will have it on my agenda for tomorrow. This crap just drives me nuts anymore. We should not have to pay these prices and get this kind of equipment.
A friend of mine just bought a Redwood, a new line of trailer from Thor I think. It has the level up and some of the same things that we have but has better AC's and other things. Can't wait to get a good look at it.
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Old 02-07-2012, 05:23 AM   #33
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Pat L sorry to hear your still waiting. Lucky your not workkamping.If Redwood has level up its probably a lippert frame same with trailair. I will look for Bigfoot and Moryde IS in the future and make sure the frame isn't lipperts.
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Old 02-07-2012, 05:59 AM   #34
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Lippert is probably trying to out wait you hopefully you have plenty of time to wait them out.
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Old 02-07-2012, 06:03 AM   #35
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Make sure when your axles are remounted they use new bolts. I had an axle come off on one side because they reused.
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:47 AM   #36
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Bucky, good luck in an RV without a lippert frame since they make frames for almost all of them. You'll have to look for a unit that makes their own frames. That would be a custom unit like Spacecraft, very pricey, and maybe New Horizons also pricey.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:42 AM   #37
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Bucky,

NuWa also has their frames made by Young's welding best frame in the business.

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Old 02-07-2012, 10:43 AM   #38
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There are a few manufacture building their on frames. Probably less than 15% thats just using the SWAG method. However there are millions of RV's riding on a Lippert frames.. You only hear or read about a frame failure. Guess we have been lucky with our Mobile Suites. Our 2009 Mobile Suites was used over a year and pulled thousands of miles and had only one issue, a bubble in linoleum, was repaired and no other issues... We have been in our 2010 Mobile Suites since 6 Aug 2009 and have had to replace the bathroom Manual Surflo fan with a fully auto Fantastic fan... The largest issue has been the plastic retainers on the cabinets, have went thru a dozen or more. As for frame issue I have never had a frame issue in any of the 6 5th wheels we have owned and all were riding on a Lippert frame. I do know Drv will make changes to improve things. I do agree there should be more attention to things that continue to happen over and over, such as the plastic retainers. Good Luck to all. Happy Trails....
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Old 02-07-2012, 04:23 PM   #39
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Veiw5046 you truly are an amazingly lucky owner. Even Ryan Miller told me they were having avgerage 25 issues per unit. I've written up the 30+ issues I've had but it would take too many post to get it all on. I won't be getting rid of my MS but until they provide satisfaction for my investment I will not be a cheerleader.
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Old 02-07-2012, 04:29 PM   #40
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Tom Peck was very sympathatic for all this rig has had wrong but as evidenced by my lack of $1000, that was lip service. I understand the value of lip service, it keeps people from taking an depth look.
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