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Old 09-23-2019, 10:56 AM   #1
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Replacement Tires

Time for me to replace my tires on my 5th wheel. I presently have the Goodyears G614 RST 235/85r16. I was looking to replace them with Hercules H901. Has anyone here used this tire
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Old 09-23-2019, 11:25 AM   #2
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How have the GY's held up for you? How many years old are they?

Hercules are a Chinese made tire.
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Old 09-23-2019, 11:47 AM   #3
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How have the GY's held up for you? How many years old are they?

Hercules are a Chinese made tire.
I have had them on for almost 8 years and this set did fine. I did have a blow out on my first set but Goodyear paid for a new tire and damage to the fiver.

I was told by the tire dealer that these tires are made in Ohio. I guess thats not true. I can get a new set of Goodyear G614 from simple tire for about 1200 but I can't find anyone here to put them on for me.
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Old 09-23-2019, 11:47 AM   #4
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Dutch, I'm sure you're wanting to go with the $600 rather than the $1,200 to stay on the cheap side. Dump that Hercules idea and go with the Sailuns instead. It is a less expensive, tried and true tire. Hercules is just a cheap tire.
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Old 09-23-2019, 12:25 PM   #5
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I have had them on for almost 8 years and this set did fine. I did have a blow out on my first set but Goodyear paid for a new tire and damage to the fiver.

I was told by the tire dealer that these tires are made in Ohio. I guess thats not true. I can get a new set of Goodyear G614 from simple tire for about 1200 but I can't find anyone here to put them on for me.
Any commercial tire shop can do the install.

Sailun have had good reviews. I like to keep my money here if possible! GY will back up their tires. 8 years, I would buy the same!
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Old 09-30-2019, 06:17 PM   #6
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Had 3 out of 4 Hercules tires this week that the cords separated. Go with Sailun and you will never look back.
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Old 10-01-2019, 07:48 AM   #7
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17.5 Sailun are a good option

I had 16" Geo tires on my 2009 MS 32TK3 and were only a 1/2 year old when I bought it in June of '18. I am sure the dealer bought the cheapest tires possible and put them on before I bought. This past winter I upgraded to 17.5 wheels and Sailun tires and couldn't be more pleased with them. 1.5 months after I put them on we went on a Utah 5 Natl. Park trip 3300 mi. On our last leg of the trip I noticed that I had picked up a pretty large nail but I had to still drive another 2 hours on the Calif freeway before I could have the tire fixed. Whew made me nervous cause the 5th wheel we had before this one a Carriage Cameo blew a tire on a trip and ended up totaling the rig. So I learned the hard truth about RV tires with that one. We were not able to change the tire due to I forgot to reinstall the spare tire under the trailer before we left on the trip. America's tires fixed it for free. I bought the tires and wheels at trailertiresandwheels.com. $1750 delivered and they came all mounted and balanced.
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Old 10-01-2019, 08:45 AM   #8
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I like the good year endurance
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I like the good year endurance


They have a stellar record!!!

The "G" and "H" GY tires are solid also.
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:51 AM   #10
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Yes, G and H are solid tires until the tread separates...
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:42 AM   #11
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Yes, G and H are solid tires until the tread separates...

On the "G" tires they had issues early 07 and prior but they have resolved this issues and are a solid tire since.

The "H" tires date code sometime 15 they had some with tread separation, I had one and they replaced all my tires. Since they have been perfect.

The "E" tires on the market for 2 yrs and 8 months have zero issues.

In the MANY thousands of miles with GY tires I have had ONE tread separation that's it!, not even a flat.

Bottom line they stand behind their tires. More money than the Sailun, yep but I like my money to stay here as much as possible.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:55 AM   #12
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When mentions of GY blowouts/tread separations stop showing up on the forums, I will believe they have "resolved the issues"....
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Old 10-03-2019, 10:20 PM   #13
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When mentions of GY blowouts/tread separations stop showing up on the forums, I will believe they have "resolved the issues"....
I am right there with you Joe. I'm looking for new tires for my Atlanta in the next 6 months or so. I do not believe that I will replace the GY 114's with the same. I'm thinking about Saliuns or Coopers.

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In a quick search on the SimpleTire.com site, here are current prices:

Cooper $239------ set of 4 $956
Sailun 209------ 836
Hankook 256------ 1024
G-114 347------ 1388

Used to be over $400 for the G-114s. The above prices put GY in better position than before, but I still would not buy them just for the damage coverage. I have no idea what the retail pricing would be on these, and mounting has to be added.
I had a set of 4 Cooper RM170s in the 235 size (6005lb capacity) for under $1000 mounted/balanced at Premier Tire in Livingston, TX, last November. I honestly believe I will never have a blowout/tread separation on one of these tires, but it could happen.
And, also, I think DRV is pushing the envelope on the 2-axle 21k models equipping them with the 215 G-114s--should be the 235s. I used to think 4805lbs/tire was sufficient--lasted very well on my '05 for many, many miles. But now the gross weight has climbed, yet the tires stay the same. Doesn't make sense to me.
Completely different circumstance on the triple-axle models.
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Yep, 6 new tires adds a bit to the totals you show. Our GY 114 tires are well into their 4th year on our rig. That's why I am getting somewhat antsy to get them replaced soon.

Did you order your Cooper tires from Simple Tire or did the tire shop in Livingston have them in stock?

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Old 10-04-2019, 07:29 AM   #16
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Having had a G-114 blowout on my previous trailer and good experience with GY covering 100% of the claim, I would lean that direction for replacement.

But, that trailer was 4-5000 pounds lighter and had plenty of reserve on the tires.

With the DRV I am looking at approximately 300 pounds reserve weight capacity (4805 per tire).

That’s a bit close for comfort.

In your research of the Coopers, have you found many failures?

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In a quick search on the SimpleTire.com site, here are current prices:

Cooper $239------ set of 4 $956
Sailun 209------ 836
Hankook 256------ 1024
G-114 347------ 1388

Used to be over $400 for the G-114s. The above prices put GY in better position than before, but I still would not buy them just for the damage coverage. I have no idea what the retail pricing would be on these, and mounting has to be added.
I had a set of 4 Cooper RM170s in the 235 size (6005lb capacity) for under $1000 mounted/balanced at Premier Tire in Livingston, TX, last November. I honestly believe I will never have a blowout/tread separation on one of these tires, but it could happen.
And, also, I think DRV is pushing the envelope on the 2-axle 21k models equipping them with the 215 G-114s--should be the 235s. I used to think 4805lbs/tire was sufficient--lasted very well on my '05 for many, many miles. But now the gross weight has climbed, yet the tires stay the same. Doesn't make sense to me.
Completely different circumstance on the triple-axle models.
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Do you guys think that the tires go boom if you are running close to MAX weight? There are factors built into everything. My DRV is 21k rated and for over 4 years full timing it hasn't broke nor the 21k pin box. It actually weighs 23k, I also have 17,500# on the axles.

With the GY "H" tire all you need to do is inflate per load and keep an eye on the center three ribs. If they appear to be higher than the outside ribs then you have GY replace the tire. That is the only thing that can happen with these tires other than road hazard.

This is what to look for, the only ones that seem to have this issue is some that came on 2016 DRV's.


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Old 10-05-2019, 08:49 PM   #18
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Time for me to replace my tires on my 5th wheel. I presently have the Goodyears G614 RST 235/85r16. I was looking to replace them with Hercules H901. Has anyone here used this tire
I have no personal experience with the brand. However, the 901s are very similar in construction - being steel cased - to the GY G614 which is going out of production. I research all tires for use on RV trailers and have extensive files for all brands. Here is an older reference for the Hercules H901s.

https://www.herculestire.com/news/20...l-lt-offering/

This one is for the H-901 ST tires.

https://www.herculestire.com/tire-de...les/H-901%20ST
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"to the GY G614 which is going out of production"

What info do you have about this? What is its replacement?
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"to the GY G614 which is going out of production"

What info do you have about this? What is its replacement?
It's hearsay. I know a tire retail store manager that stocks GY trailer tires of all sizes. When he found he could no longer order the G614 he was told GY was in the process of discontinuing that particular trailer tire because they are touting a new designated size (ST255/85R16 in a LRE that provides 4080# of load capacity @ 80 PSI) in their new Endurance trailer tire lineup.
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