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01-05-2016, 10:12 AM
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Hitch Pin weights question
I was looking for unloaded and loaded hitch pin weights of the 43 ft mobile suites, looking at the Naples floor plans.
Thanks for any help
John
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01-05-2016, 12:18 PM
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Good luck with that! There are so many configurations those numbers will widely vary.
Our 39TKSB3 scaled from factory at 18,075# but in reality with Gen and "stuff" it weighs 23K with 5,500# pin.
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01-05-2016, 01:02 PM
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So you are 23k on a 21k rated 5th wheel?
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01-06-2016, 11:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jbay
So you are 23k on a 21k rated 5th wheel?
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That is correct!
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01-07-2016, 06:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jbay
I was looking for unloaded and loaded hitch pin weights of the 43 ft mobile suites, looking at the Naples floor plans.
Thanks for any help
John
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What year and what model?
The 2016 GVWR 23,000 on all the Mobile Suite 43 foot models. Elites are higher.
The Est. Dry Weight seems to be 19,500 on the Manhattan ( highest est weight)
You stated you wanted Hitch Pin Weights.
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01-07-2016, 07:03 PM
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2015 naples
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01-07-2016, 09:29 PM
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On a 2016 43' Boston:
Hitch Weight: 3,200 lbs
Dry Weight: 19,700 lbs
Gross Weight: 23,000 lbs
I do not believe they changed that much. This should be close.
On DRV site the 2016 43' Naples
Hitch Weight:
Length 43' 4"
Est. Dry Weight 19,400 Lbs.
GVWR 23,000 Lbs.
20% calculations:
Est. Dry Weight 19,400 Lbs. x 20% = 3880 Lbs. Hitch Weight:
GVWR 23,000 Lbs x 20% = 4600 Lbs. Hitch Weight
Looks like DRV uses 16.5%
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01-07-2016, 11:43 PM
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I agree i had guessed about 17% for pin weight. I am told the triple axles have lighter pin weights.
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01-08-2016, 11:04 AM
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Take 25% of the RV Gross weight and you will have a close pin. Most EVERYTHING you add to the RV will directly go to the pin weight. The reality is MOST DRV's are over gross weight.
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01-08-2016, 01:07 PM
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If 17% is the noted pin weight as listed by Maverick then wouldn't about that amount transfer to the lounge as I load it as long as I don't put a generator or bricks in the front in
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01-09-2016, 10:33 AM
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25% of 23000 = 5750 for dual axles, right?
17% of 23000 = 3910 for triple axles, right?
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01-09-2016, 10:45 AM
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Thats what I'm thinking, I have found lighter pin weights on the 43 ft and above models so far.
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01-09-2016, 03:24 PM
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At one time, a Suites Owner posted a spreadsheet.
The spreadsheet listed Dry Weight & Dry Pin Weights.
Units were 33’8” to 40’10” Mobile & Elite Suites
Here are the average results.
2011 = 22.07%
2012 = 23.27%
2013 = 23.43%
2014 = 23.44%
Look like DRV bases calculations on DRY WEIGHTS and not GVWR.
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01-10-2016, 02:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wingnut60
25% of 23000 = 5750 for dual axles, right?
17% of 23000 = 3910 for triple axles, right?
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I think anyone thinking a fully loaded DRV of ANY length having 17% pin is in LA LA land! Comment NOT directed at anyone just my opinion.
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01-10-2016, 03:56 PM
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Anyone here with an actual triple axle model pin weight?
Cummins--
Didn't you say you were going to have the 3rd axle installed?
Joe
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01-12-2016, 04:22 PM
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Well my Teton is 3 axles. Just shy of 21K. We carry a 6k pin. We are full time though so we tend to load on heavy side.
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01-12-2016, 08:35 PM
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Glenn, sorry, should have said any 'with a DRV triple axle pin weight.'
Very interested in how they actually balance the axle/pin weights on these longer unit.
Joe
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01-13-2016, 01:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wingnut60
Glenn, sorry, should have said any 'with a DRV triple axle pin weight.'
Very interested in how they actually balance the axle/pin weights on these longer unit.
Joe
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We never got a chance to get our unit weighed before loading it with all our stuff. If I get a chance, I will weigh it on the way back to Texas in April.
Joe
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01-13-2016, 06:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wingnut60
Anyone here with an actual triple axle model pin weight?
Cummins--
Didn't you say you were going to have the 3rd axle installed?
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After speaking to MorRyde the third axle option is off the table. When I get back there we will decide what option is best.
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01-13-2016, 09:31 PM
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Sorry to hear that.
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