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igotjam
09-07-2007, 11:55 AM
I know this has been covered before but this week I finally went to a CAT scale and weighed the trailer. It's a little frightening how much it weighs. The thing I want someone to confirm is "Pin weight will be less that the weight registerd on the front jacks." Basic physics would tell me that? I unhitched and weighed the front (on jacks) and rear (on tires) The front was 6000 lbs with nothing in the basement except the factory installed generator. (about 1/3 of the total weight) 1/3 is way too high for a pin weight. Ya I know I should weigh it attached, weigh each truck axle, compute the pin weight (Someday I will) but that's a lot of scale time. Sould I be concerned???

Stripit
09-07-2007, 03:44 PM
We have weighed a lot of these trailers, and not one was 6,000 lbs. I suggest you reweigh and take the time needed on the scales.

golf_bears
09-07-2007, 07:47 PM
igotjam'

If you give me your trailer dimensions, I can probably calculate your pin weight fairly accurately.

Need horizontal distance form center of wheels to center of front jacks and the horizontal distance from center of wheels to center of your pin.

The more accurate the dimensions are the more accurate the pin weight calculation will be.

Take care.

anijet
09-07-2007, 09:25 PM
Without trying to confuse the issue, keep in mind that if you support the front of the trailer at the pin, the weight on the axles will go up. So, when you are hitched up, the weight on the axles is more than what it weighed when the front was supported by the front jacks.

After you calculate the pin weight, you can subtract it from the total trailer weight to get hitched up axle weight.

billr
09-07-2007, 09:57 PM
If all you want to confirm is pin wt, just weigh the truck without trailer and get separate wts for the axles. You might already have this info when you weighed the other day. You also need the trucks rear axle wt with the trailer on.

Then take the wt of the truck rear axle With the trailer, and subtract the rear axle wt Without the trailer and you have the pin wt of the trailer.


Cheers,
Bill

golf_bears
09-08-2007, 07:14 AM
To anijet:

You are correct, the weight carried by the front jacks (6000#) will be redistributed, some to the pin (less than 6000#) and the remainder back to the wheels.

To Billr:

igutjam does not want to return to the scales to weight out the truck with the trailer and truck separately at this time.

So if he provides the horizontal dimensions requested we can calculate fairly accurately what his pin weight is.

Take care guys & gals

igotjam
09-08-2007, 10:30 AM
Thanx for the replies...I can do the calculation or reweigh...the quick answer you gave me (pin weight will be less than 6000) is what I wanted. It's been a while since I did the math but I can do it.
Thanx

golf_bears
09-08-2007, 01:37 PM
igotjam:

I'm heading out to the Hershey Penn. RV show on Monday. If I see an ES 36RE3 I will take the needed measurements and if you have not calculated your pin weight I will get back to you. Will be on the road for 2 - 3 weeks.

Take care.

Motor31
09-09-2007, 09:32 AM
Going to the scale is the only way to really know what the weight is. Anything else is an estimate. You are correct that these rigs are pretty heavy and you have an F450 tp tow with.

FWIW my pin weight on a 38'MS is just over 4200 lbs. With my tow vehicle that is really not a problem, it was just one of the things I found out when I weighed the rig.

billr
09-09-2007, 07:05 PM
Golf _bears: Going to the scales would be a whole lot simpler for us mere mortals. :lol: :lol:

Cheers,
Bill

WildJohn
09-10-2007, 08:31 AM
ditto motor 31.. but ours is just a little shorter in the tower tower.
LOL
Happy .camping... all the time
John

WildJohn
09-10-2007, 08:32 AM
that didn't read like it sounded.. in the TOWer TOWER