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monaj02@frontier.com
05-11-2021, 06:17 AM
I have air lift air bags what air most of you setting air at in bags for pulling I have a 36 RE PULLING WITH F-250 diesel 6.7

Cummins12V98
05-11-2021, 12:43 PM
You are posting in a DRV section. Are you saying you are towing a Mobile Suites of what?

Pressure is irrelevant, bottom line air to where the truck sets level.

porkchop
05-11-2021, 04:22 PM
You're not really pulling any DRV product with a 250, are you?

Bill

monaj02@frontier.com
05-12-2021, 06:12 AM
Yes a 36 RE WITH A F-250 6.7 disel

monaj02@frontier.com
05-12-2021, 06:16 AM
Thank you I will put air bag pressure at level

Notanlines
05-12-2021, 01:39 PM
Bob, out of curiosity, what does your RV weigh loaded? Pin weight? Surely you've run it across a CAT scale.

monaj02@frontier.com
05-12-2021, 08:42 PM
Bob, out of curiosity, what does your RV weigh loaded? Pin weight? Surely you've run it across a CAT scale.
Have not yet but guessing 14.5 k loaded

monaj02@frontier.com
05-13-2021, 06:23 AM
Have not yet but guessing 14.5 k loaded

Truck weighs 8k

Notanlines
05-13-2021, 06:26 AM
In that you are towing a fairly large RV with a medium duty truck, a trip across the scales on your way to go camping will tell you a lot you need to know.

ford truck guy11
05-13-2021, 09:28 AM
Have not yet but guessing 14.5 k loaded

here is something close - 36 RSSB3
Length 36' 9" | Est. Dry Weight 16,600 Lbs. | GVWR 20,000 Lbs.

Not exactly sure where the 14.5 number came from.. You MAY want to re-check your info...

Either way, air them bags UP with that much weight om top of them.. I pull a 17k loaded fiver with my 2020 SRW F350 and have my bags at 35-40psi to ride level...

Cummins12V98
05-13-2021, 02:01 PM
I owned a 36SB3 Mobile suites and it weighed 18k loaded. Also your truck at 8k loaded is likely a light number.

I HIGHLY advise you take your truck and trailer FULLY loaded with propane fuel and water in the tank and get it weighed. Passengers also.

I also advise you look at your truck tire load rating at 80psi. If 17" you are most likely over your tires load carrying capacity.

monaj02@frontier.com
05-13-2021, 05:53 PM
I owned a 36SB3 Mobile suites and it weighed 18k loaded. Also your truck at 8k loaded is likely a light number.

I HIGHLY advise you take your truck and trailer FULLY loaded with propane fuel and water in the tank and get it weighed. Passengers also.

I also advise you look at your truck tire load rating at 80psi. If 17" you are most likely over your tires load carrying capacity. I am running Rainier 17.5 tires max load is 125 psi I have 118 psi in tires wheels are rated for 4850 I will run across scales and get weight my truck weighs 8k had it weighted just put new rubber sheer springs on and moved to lower spring holes to get more lift out of 5er now sitting 22” in rear to pavement and 22.5” in front gained a nice lift I am using Anderson ball hitch with air lift 5000 air bags will get weighed and go from their if I have to go truck shopping will do so but I will see how she pulls any advice would be appreciated thank you

Cummins12V98
05-14-2021, 12:47 AM
Not trying to be an A-HOLE here but you are definitely putting you, your family and others at risk with such a large load with a light duty truck.

Please report back all your weights. They will let you go thru twice. Separate from RV and weigh again.

porkchop
05-14-2021, 10:42 AM
Mona=You are not running 17.5 tires on your ford. That is what was referenced above by cummins. That's 5 times in 12 months cummins and I agree 100%. ANY 250 pulling ANY DRV unit is WAY over weight as are most 350 srw. Proof of that is on the net by the people who run the scales at some DRV events. They have history going back to the beginning. Sorry but I can not remember their names, but pretty sure it's on this forum somewhere. I'll look later and repost.


Bill

Cummins12V98
05-14-2021, 12:14 PM
Mona=You are not running 17.5 tires on your ford. That is what was referenced above by cummins. That's 5 times in 12 months cummins and I agree 100%. ANY 250 pulling ANY DRV unit is WAY over weight as are most 350 srw. Proof of that is on the net by the people who run the scales at some DRV events. They have history going back to the beginning. Sorry but I can not remember their names, but pretty sure it's on this forum somewhere. I'll look later and repost.


Bill

Looking more like us having a beer someday!

donald
05-17-2021, 07:20 PM
Between 50-60. Would suggest 55
Don

MTK46
05-17-2021, 07:45 PM
When I decided to get a DRV first thing I did was sell my F-350 LB SRW truck and buy a dually. F-250 is just to light a truck to tow any DRV.

monaj02@frontier.com
05-18-2021, 02:08 AM
Between 50-60. Would suggest 55
Don

Just hooked up went to Cat Scales put 35psi on bags leveled just fine thank you

OCB
05-18-2021, 08:06 AM
Have not yet but guessing 14.5 k loaded
And your truck weighs 8K makes a weight of 26,500 pounds. Do you have the required Class A non-CDL or CDL drivers license?
Yes a light duty truck can pull and heavy load. Yes a light duty truck can stop a heavy a heavy load if everything works. But happens in a corner, you need more rubber on the ground and the tail shouldn't control your actions
Clay 2016 MS 38PS3 weighting about 17k empty

Notanlines
05-18-2021, 08:29 AM
He's not approaching the 26,001 weight yet, not with a 2004, but is still more than 1600 pounds over gross cargo on the truck. The only suggestion I have is a different truck, and a DRW at that. Not Timbrens, not an extra spring leaf, not air bags, not bigger tires, not overload shocks, and not any other things that people dream up to help max out their gross cargo capacity. Sorry....

Cummins12V98
05-18-2021, 12:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by monaj02@frontier.com View Post
Cummins I went to the Cat Scale steer axel 4800 Drive axel 6840 Trailer axel 12280 gross weight 23920 that is loaded Empty it is steer axel 4920 Drive axel is 3380 Gross weight is 8300 with me in it sticker in door jamb says cargo weight 2148 running load range E on tires I think I am 1300 lb over what do you think



My response,

You have something WRONG if you are unloading your front axle by 120#.

Load range "E" means nothing, what does the tire say capacity is at 80psi?

You have a pin weight of 3,340# per your numbers.
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Pvsaint
05-22-2021, 08:11 AM
Mona=You are not running 17.5 tires on your ford. That is what was referenced above by cummins. That's 5 times in 12 months cummins and I agree 100%. ANY 250 pulling ANY DRV unit is WAY over weight as are most 350 srw. Proof of that is on the net by the people who run the scales at some DRV events. They have history going back to the beginning. Sorry but I can not remember their names, but pretty sure it's on this forum somewhere. I'll look later and repost.


Bill
I had this from a few years ago. It was most likely taken from the Suites Owners site. It shows that most people pulling a MS is over weight.

32% tow with a SRW truck.
100% of towing with a SRW are over weight.

Cummins12V98
05-23-2021, 11:42 AM
GVWR can be completely useless. RAWR is much more important.

Example, my 15 RAM DRW has 14k GVWR and 9,750# RAWR. Think about this. I run at full "SAE Rated" RAWR. Now let's say I don't add a single pound to my factory front axle weight of 5,250#. HMMMMMMM, this puts me at 15,000#. How can this be???

I can tell you the 14k GVWR number is simply to keep the truck in "CLASS 3" for licensing and insurance purposes because 14,001# puts you in Commercial territory.

I have enough tonnage to cover what ever my 6 tires are carrying and run full RAWR with lot's of rear tire capacity and well under my GCVWR.

So the chart above is a bit deceiving on being over GVWR as I guarantee none of the DRW's were over their RAWR.

monaj02@frontier.com
05-24-2021, 03:13 AM
And your truck weighs 8K makes a weight of 26,500 pounds. Do you have the required Class A non-CDL or CDL drivers license?
Yes a light duty truck can pull and heavy load. Yes a light duty truck can stop a heavy a heavy load if everything works. But happens in a corner, you need more rubber on the ground and the tail shouldn't control your actions
Clay 2016 MS 38PS3 weighting about 17k empty

Clay went to scale rig weight is 16,000 axel is 12,000 truck is 8k loaded GCWR IS 24,000 I will make a couple of short runs but will probably be stepping up to f-350 or dully 350 what do you think

Cummins12V98
05-24-2021, 01:01 PM
You NEED a DRW truck plain and simple. That RV is a lot of tail for the dog.

Start another topic so we can debate what truck you should get. ;)

Notanlines
05-24-2021, 01:57 PM
Mona, sorry, but dually is the only answer. We can debate this 'til hell freezes over but SRW is simply not the 'hoss' that's necessary.

monaj02@frontier.com
05-24-2021, 07:29 PM
And your truck weighs 8K makes a weight of 26,500 pounds. Do you have the required Class A non-CDL or CDL drivers license?
Yes a light duty truck can pull and heavy load. Yes a light duty truck can stop a heavy a heavy load if everything works. But happens in a corner, you need more rubber on the ground and the tail shouldn't control your actions
Clay 2016 MS 38PS3 weighting about 17k empty

My GCWR IS 24,000 heading to DRV IN INDIANA tomorrow for a slide adjustment

MTK46
05-24-2021, 09:00 PM
Now according to your Cat scale reading you have 2 tons of pin weight. That's what I have on four rear tires not just two like you. So do you think that is safe?

Cummins12V98
05-25-2021, 11:49 AM
Get into a "OH SH!T" situation and the SRW will not handle that load.