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Old 06-10-2018, 02:37 PM   #1
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Pin weights

Question for you fulltimers in 40' rigs or close. Or you snowbirds that load up for the winters. What are your pin weights?
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Old 06-10-2018, 10:13 PM   #2
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Full-timer, Mobile Suites 38RSSA--4300PW, 20400G. Trailer is 39'4" long.
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Old 06-11-2018, 06:46 AM   #3
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Trailer weighs 19,950 lbs, pin weight 4,000 lbs, length 41 feet...John

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Old 06-11-2018, 07:04 AM   #4
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I was 2004 36TK3 fulltime and pin was 4300lbs.
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Old 06-11-2018, 11:41 AM   #5
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I have a 2016 MS 38PS3/Dallas (Bedroom and Bath, like a Dallas) Unit is 40 feet (Actual 40 feet 9 inches without ladder) I have a generator and two sets of batteries. With less than 25 gal water(12 in Hot water Heater) 3 different years the RV weighted at 20,000# and Pin was 4950 to 5030# or 25% of total.
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Old 06-11-2018, 02:00 PM   #6
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We have a 2017 38RSSA, 40'-4", PW is 4020# with generator and 2 batteries. 22%
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Old 06-11-2018, 11:47 PM   #7
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Old 06-12-2018, 01:06 PM   #8
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Light weights! HA

My 39 tksb3 is about 41', it weighs 23K with a 25% pin of 5,750# or so.
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Old 06-12-2018, 05:54 PM   #9
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Think on our last CAT rollover we were closer to 4400lbs. on the pin Plus we run a Rola cargo carrier plugged in the trailers receiver. Another 30" in OAL.
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Old 06-13-2018, 07:55 AM   #10
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2019 39DBRS3 42’
19,140 - shipping weight
19,980 / 3,600 - with water
21,000 / 4,020 first trip
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Old 06-13-2018, 01:54 PM   #11
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2019 39DBRS3 42’
19,140 - shipping weight
19,980 / 3,600 - with water
21,000 / 4,020 first trip

Seems like a VERY high ship weight?
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Old 06-13-2018, 02:01 PM   #12
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Seems like a VERY high ship weight?

Yes it does for a dry weight of 16,800

2,300 pounds of options

Diesel gen and tank is almost 450 pounds, 3rd AC, vanity slide, 3 slide toppers, slide awning, outside TV (and resulting cabinet inside), washer dryer.

It all adds up I suppose, but I still don’t see 2,300 pounds of options.

I verified the weight - somewhat. I did not weigh the trailer right away. I weighed it when I left the dealer, and with the amount of water I added, I would think the weight is close. Also didn’t do the math yet on th weight difference between two 40 pound propane tanks shipped empty and filled by the dealer.


And I can’t get a full tank of water in. Each fill I have only been able to get about 80 gallons in, and the tank level gauge indicates the same percentage of full.
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Old 06-14-2018, 12:34 PM   #13
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Our 39tksb3 two axle shipped 18,075# with a 21K rating. It weighs 23K with about 20 gallons of water and propane full. My gen prep was done at factory but 6500 Commercial Cummins was done at RR. I had the W/D installed at the factory but no slide toppers or bedroom vanity slide. We do have 3 AC's and MANY Elite upgrades along with Quarts tops.

Yea I don't put any faith in their "DRY" weights!!!
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Old 06-14-2018, 04:12 PM   #14
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I was told the dry weight is as it leaves the factory. All dealer added options are not added or allowed for. My dealer installed option included a REAL couch and 2 recliners, Awnings toppers, some other furniture, Mattress and such. Thus I,m up against a weight before the refrigerator is turned on
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Old 06-14-2018, 05:57 PM   #15
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Well, we traded for our '15RSSA about 15 months ago--on the way home, we weighed it when empty, no water but propane. We had transferred our generator from the old one.
Listed Dry Weight: 16500. GVWR: 19000. Yellow tag on door: Weight of cargo should never exceed 2735lbs...16500 + 2735 = 19235. With the advertised dry weight and possible cargo, it is already over GVWR. AND, the empty trailer weighed 18300--take the gen out and maybe 17900?
What a joke on these figures. Most of them should have the triple axles at 38" plus.
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Well, we traded for our '15RSSA about 15 months ago--on the way home, we weighed it when empty, no water but propane. We had transferred our generator from the old one.
Listed Dry Weight: 16500. GVWR: 19000. Yellow tag on door: Weight of cargo should never exceed 2735lbs...16500 + 2735 = 19235. With the advertised dry weight and possible cargo, it is already over GVWR. AND, the empty trailer weighed 18300--take the gen out and maybe 17900?
What a joke on these figures. Most of them should have the triple axles at 38" plus.
Your rig should have had a 21K rating!!! But then you already know that.
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Old 06-16-2018, 11:30 AM   #17
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You're right, Ron--but if it could weigh 21k, unless the PW was over 5k, the axles would have more than 8k on each of them--as mine does.
DRV needed to put 9k axles on these or build with triple axles...
I've always had plenty of cushion on the tires with 17.5s on the '05--now, not so much.
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You're right, Ron--but if it could weigh 21k, unless the PW was over 5k, the axles would have more than 8k on each of them--as mine does.
DRV needed to put 9k axles on these or build with triple axles...
I've always had plenty of cushion on the tires with 17.5s on the '05--now, not so much.
I have the 9K axles.
The difference between the 8K & 9K can be seen if you look close at both.

The brake size difference is very easy to see.
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I agree the NEW 9 or 9.4 are a nice looking. Wish I had the heaviest!
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Old 06-19-2018, 08:22 AM   #20
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Talked with a dealer just yesterday and mentioned suspension and he said thate most of the units are coming with the 9K now, the 40KSSB4 we are thinking about does now but I'm told it didn't used to.
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