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Old 10-13-2015, 11:49 PM   #1
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How hard to install a Progressive HARDWIRED EMS?

How hard is it to install a Progressive Industries HW50C 50 Amp Hardwired Electrical Management System with Remote Display into a DRV Tradition?

The attraction of the "Hardwired" version is that it is impossible, or at least pretty difficult, for someone to steal it. But, if getting to the necessary connecitons on a DRV Tradition model would be too difficult, I'd plan on going with a "portable" version.

Can anyone here answer the question?

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Old 10-14-2015, 08:08 AM   #2
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I hired an electrician, had the job done in less than 30 minutes on our 2007 MS. Pigtailed into wiring at the plug in junction box. Did not buy the remote but suggest you do as it provides bypass switch. Handy when you use a genset.
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Old 10-14-2015, 08:23 AM   #3
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Thanks, Moosesuite. I had not thought of hiring an electrician or RV tech to do it, but if all it took was 30 minutes, that makes a lot of sense to make sure it gets done right!

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Old 10-14-2015, 08:58 AM   #4
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I put the 50amp PI surge protector w/remote display in my '05 just this spring--it is in the same compartment as the plugin and where the cord is stored. It took me the better part of two days to do it as I was afraid of wiring something wrong--this time included several breaks to think things thru. The 50a cord stiffness and short bends took most of the time, and I had to move the original plugin in rearward to make room for the pigtail to connect the plugin to the surge protector.
If your Tradition has the plugin in the cord storage compartment, I can take pics of the placement and post them--if yours is a direct mount plugin on the side/rear, won't be much help.
I also ran the remote display into the service panel where all the tank and battery info is displayed--had to order a longer connection wire from PI ($35) to reach far enough. You will have to drop some of the belly covering to run it this way. Couple things about the remote readout: if you only get the one without the remote, you can probably watch it when you plug into the pedestal; if you get the remote, you can't see the display until you walk back into the trailer, but I can watch the amp draw of the different legs as I turn on the different appliances/draws and that info is enlightening, to say the least.
As to ease of installation--after doing mine, helped a friend with a MH do same 2 weeks later and it took only about 2 hours. Getting the SP wire routed nicely inside the unit itself was really the hard part--not much room to work with. Pics that come with the instructions show some really nice wiring work--must have been a professional that did the wiring for the pics.
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Old 10-14-2015, 09:26 AM   #5
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Thanks, Joe.

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Old 10-14-2015, 09:43 AM   #6
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I installed mine in the power compartment without the remote unit. It was about a little less than 1 hour start to finish. Only one time did we go through one night in an rv park without power as the unit was not happy with what the park was delivering and shut us down. I was going to install a bypass switch in case that ever happened again so even though the parks power was low or fluctuating, we could still have run the tv or a fan, but when it shuts down, nothing goes through. I felt that unit was a MUST have accessory to our trailer and with the non remote unit when I plugged in I watched each line power and knew if we had good or bad power. I didn't stay at Holiday Inn and would never say I was an electrician, but the directions were very good and I felt after reading them I could do the install. If your not sure of what you can do, then hiring an electrician is not the end of the world and do what makes you feel comfortable. As Wingnut said, your going to have to drop, or cut into the bottom covering to gain access to run the remote wiring and that will be troublesome and time consuming. If your going to hire the electrician doing that work before he/she arrives will save you money.
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Old 10-14-2015, 09:56 AM   #7
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Ours was installed last year (year 3 of our full time living in the MS) and is in the area near the water pump and transfer switch in the underbelly. It was done by Slade at Rolling Retreats when we stopped there to have it done.

We should have had it done upon purchase of the unit. We might have saved our first Whirlpool washing machine. With the unit in the underbelly, the wire to the remote is relatively close.

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What Stacey said. Put mine in no issues in panel area inside. Short wire run in and out of panel.
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Old 10-14-2015, 10:41 AM   #9
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This instalaltion sounds not that bad, but I don't like the idea of cutting the underbelly cover, and I don't like the idea that I lose power to EVERYTHING if the pedestal we happen to plug into has a fault, even though the fault might be of no concern to, for example, lights or other non-sensitive equipment.

Is there any REASONABLY effective way to secure the portable unit? (The provided locking tab seems pretty flimsy, and would likely deter only an amateur. Any large hand cutter would go through that tab like butter I would think.

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This instalaltion sounds not that bad, but I don't like the idea of cutting the underbelly cover, and I don't like the idea that I lose power to EVERYTHING if the pedestal we happen to plug into has a fault, even though the fault might be of no concern to, for example, lights or other non-sensitive equipment.

Is there any REASONABLY effective way to secure the portable unit? (The provided locking tab seems pretty flimsy, and would likely deter only an amateur. Any large hand cutter would go through that tab like butter I would think.

Jim G
For the most part, rv parks are safe and loss like that is uncommon. But the truth is a thief will take what they want and if they feel they can, a chain or cable will only slow them up a bit. Having the external unit would easily allow you to remove the unit should it be doing its job and saving your trailer from damage ( or if it thinks there is a problem). You could then just use the supplied power and hope that no issue comes up with low/lack of power to your trailer. In all the years I full time traveled, I never lost anything from my rv site that I didn't leave and drive off and forget to pick up.
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