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Old 05-09-2018, 10:16 PM   #1
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Dream 5th wheel

I only have been towing 10 or so years. On my second camper, 2004 Starcraft BHS. I have been upgrading it bit by bit and would love it to last at least 10 more years. At that point with all of the kids and college educations done my wife and I will be looking for either a new or a very gently used/new fifth wheel.

So... I would like components on it like:
38-40í
A generator
Good auto leveling
Good almost hands free, Black grey water controls
A man cave area
Auto TV digital/satelite
For starters lol

I am curious as to what you guys like, donít like, would love to get and/or avoid.
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Old 05-10-2018, 05:32 AM   #2
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I will bet most members here will agree when I say you have one great thing going for you: You actually have some semblance of a plan. There are so many people going through life not worrying in the least about where they will be in ten years, much less what it will take to bring them there.
We left our toy hauler behind because we missed the actual living space of a "regular" RV. We seriously miss all the garage space, dearly love a large living area.
Four, five or six slides. Too many is not enough.
A dishwasher. The newer models work great.
I don't know how big you would have to go to have a man-cave. But if you find it, hopefully there will be room enough for a sewing machine. Remember you will have to share all these spaces......
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Old 05-10-2018, 06:26 AM   #3
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Not sure how large of a man cave you will be looking for but how about the ones that have a mid bunkroom, I have seen some that come with a sofa and not bunks but sure someone would put in what you want. Now in 10 years that floor plan might not be available but for now something to look at. Check the River Stone, Lux, DRV and Heartland lines to see some.
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Old 05-10-2018, 10:35 AM   #4
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One RV model we considered at one time was the DRV Atlanta. They're long - about 43-ft or more - and heavier, but have a 2nd bedroom/office in the rear and have more slides (i.e., more storage area). As some RVers have written about, length restrictions in RV parks and camp grounds may not allow such a long RV to be parked there. Such a long 5er can also limit the ability to park one on private property as well, given the amount of space needed to maneuver them into the setup location.
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Old 05-10-2018, 12:08 PM   #5
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Kind words. Thanks Notanlines. A dishwasher.. who would have thought! It blows my mind the amenities available. I was thinking purely operational/functional stuff. I need to think outside the box!

Man cave wise, just a spot to set up a desk to do things, maybe reload bullets. Gets me out of my wife’s hair. I like the sound of the mid room. I am not opposed to going with greater trailer length. I have seen some with the rooms mentioned. Nice stuff. One that stood out (model not known)had a bunk house and area in the back with sofa and table in center of it. Many options...

More brainstorming:
accessible storage is another thing that comes to mind, LOTS of it.
Awnings for slide outs (an upgrade for me, lol)
Rear bumper ready for attachments and structurally made for it.
2 or 3 axels? With buying 6 tires in 3 years, 3 would not be a huge transition.
Real shower...

Sounds like my 14 year old 5th wheel is very old school if all of the above are normal now.
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Old 08-15-2018, 06:14 PM   #6
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THIS MIGHT HELP

I own a 2013 DRV Elite Suite when purchased it had an MSRP of $160,000 with trade of a 2006 Koutry Air (that I wish I still owned) I financed $110,000 in other words I got my trade stole from me. I was informed last week that high trade value was $40,000. I would like to know how I've lost $120,000 in 5 years. Invest your money wisely and $120,000 loss in 5 years is not wisely. If I could do everything all over again I would have saved my money and I would have bought a used diesel pusher 5+ years old (((look around at the high end low mile flagship pushers on the net great deals for about the same price of a new 5th wheel))) so most of its depreciation has happened they are built 10000 times better than any fifth wheel on the road and I'm talking low quality beginner entry level diesel pushers. If I took the time and got into the level of detail of issues I've had with my Elite Suite you would get sick and tired of reading. It would read like a very boring novel all I can tell you is I've had issues from day one (I have the receipts to back it up). I will never own another DRV product as long as I live. If you must stay with fifth wheels I would sure check out probably New Horizons, Spacecraft, or possibly a Lux I've heard good things. New Horizon and Spacecraft are one-off in other words they're not built on some assembly line where they're being paid piece work.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:07 PM   #7
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Don't know what/who quoted you the trade-in value and on what--but in Feb 17 I got $20k trade in from my 2005 Suites on a $90k used '15. $40k/2013 unit--Sounds like you haven't really gotten serious about selling/trading, or whoever you are dealing with is sticking it to you.
An MSRP of $160k, should not have cost more than $130 when new...
As to the repair issues, lots of that going around from all mfgs.
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Old 08-16-2018, 08:06 PM   #8
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A dishwasher.. who would have thought! It blows my mind the amenities available. I was thinking purely operational/functional stuff. I need to think outside the box!
More brainstorming:
accessible storage is another thing that comes to mind, LOTS of it.
Awnings for slide outs (an upgrade for me, lol)
Rear bumper ready for attachments and structurally made for it.
2 or 3 axels? With buying 6 tires in 3 years, 3 would not be a huge transition. Real shower...
You might get 4 yrs. on the rubber.

Surprisingly the dish-drawer although working well, only uses less than 2 gal. of water. We use ours nearly daily.
On the running gear, you didn't mention the amount of actual travel you intend on doing? More, EoH disc brakes are highly recommended on the size / weight you're mentioning. MorRyde I S and pin-box work well together. Regardless of number of axles, LR-H tires.
Man cave? heck, are sure she's not expecting a Diva Den?? I'd be stuck reloading on an optional picnic table...
You should be able to get a rear hitch receiver capable of a couple hundred> lbs.
Many units have decent showers these days. Perhaps not for everyone but we've had excellent service from the Truma AquaHot on-demand water heater.

Best of luck on your research.
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Old 08-16-2018, 08:21 PM   #9
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I would have bought a used diesel pusher 5+ years old (((look around at the high end low mile flagship pushers on the net great deals for about the same price of a new 5th wheel)))
Everything appears great on the "net", let the buyer beware. Does Amazon sell RV's? They have a good return policy.
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