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Old 12-14-2017, 12:36 PM   #21
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The 17 450 is only 9,500# ? That does not seem correct. Nor does the 14,500# GVWR rating on the 450, that puts it into the commercial territory. I thought all newer 350,450 and 3500's were ALL rated at 14K to keep them in the class 3 for licensing and insurance purposes?

My 15 3500 RAM has 6k front, 9,750# rear and 14k GVWR.

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Old 12-14-2017, 02:07 PM   #22
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The 14500 was for the '09 and '10 models--it is now 14000 like all the rest.
I think the '17 is 9700, haven't checked, on the rear axle.
These trucks are generally heavier than a comparable 350/3500 and thus have a lighter payload to stay at the 14000 gross number.
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Old 12-14-2017, 02:20 PM   #23
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Thanks! It kinda sorta backs what I have said for a long time these trucks are MUCH more capable of 14K. The 14K is a NUMBER for licensing and insurance purposes that come into effect when the GVWR is 14,001# or more!

It's not possible to utilize yours or my RAWR and NOT exceed 14K.

It's a numbers game and I was kicked off another forum for stating the above.
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