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Old 08-07-2018, 09:05 PM   #1
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Do I need a dually

Hello all. My wife and I just ordered a 41' fifth wheel with a gvwr of 16000 lbs and now I need to go buy a truck. After looking at the towing capacity is the 1 ton dually a must?
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Old 08-08-2018, 12:42 AM   #2
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16000 lbs gross can mean up to 32-3500lbs pin weight. If a selected truck can support that much pin weight, and the tires aren't over capacity, should work.
A 3500/350 at least.
But there are lots of overloaded SRWs towing those size trailers....
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Old 08-08-2018, 07:44 AM   #3
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A 350-3500 is an absolute must. Dually, like Wingnut mentioned, possibly. Give us the delivered pin weight and then we can go from there. Do NOT buy into the baloney stories thrown around by 3/4 ton owners that the truck "will tow anything." That's bogus as a football bat. Get back with us with a brand, year and model of the RV.
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Old 08-08-2018, 12:52 PM   #4
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I have occasionally towed over one or more of the weight limits, but would NEVER add more weight to the truck rear axle than the 2 tires can carry and also have some leftover capacity.
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Old 08-08-2018, 06:11 PM   #5
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Welcome to the forum!
Congrats on your new trailer!

This topic is often heavily debated with merit(s) in both camps.

A good deal of consideration may weigh (every pun intended) on your intended use of the equipment. Occasional use, heavy use, 100 mi. to a local lake a couple times a yr., full time use. Some folks gotta do allot of burger joint drive through's? Everything in RV's is a compromise.

13>'x 41>' of anything grabs allot of air when being passed by a 80,000 lb. semi @ 60>mph.
Happy trails, keep the sun on your face and the wind on your back.
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Old 08-13-2018, 04:23 PM   #6
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Well... I haul a 16K 5er and my father in-law has sold and rebuilt 2500/3500 since the 70's and he say's the engine, frame and transmission are ALL the same between the 2. I have a RAM 2500 with Firestone overloads airbags on the back and over 20K miles with no issues. Never felt unsafe or out of control even when my trailer brakes went out when I was going over 4 mountain passes in CO. The engine brake and tow/haul worked great. It was at the end of my trip and I was headed home. Got the brakes fixed when I was home.(warranty issue)
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Old 08-13-2018, 06:20 PM   #7
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"I have a RAM 2500 with Firestone overloads airbags on the back and over 20K miles with no issues". Those air bags are doing nothing more than leveling your truck....they add nothing to the stability or the weight carrying capacity of the truck.
"my trailer brakes went out when I was going over 4 mountain passes in CO"....and that is the main reason I migrated from a 3500 to a HDT.

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You need to look at the gross rear axle rating before you decide if you need a dually.
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Old 08-14-2018, 01:23 PM   #9
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As previously stated, you CAN tow with a under rated truck and probably get by. The potential serious issue is if involved in a serious accident and the lawyers determine you were towing with a under rated vehicle you are in deep DODO! How many TV lawyer ads do you see on TV! They are relentless to say the least. These vehicles have ratings for a reason, its not just tires its axles, brakes, suspension and there is a significant difference from a 2500 or 3500 RAM SRW and a 3500 RAM DRW. I have a Mobile Suites 37' and there is no SRW truck rated to pull it legally. My son has a 41' with a 16K gross, tows with a 3500 GMC SRW and has to be VERY careful how much stuff he puts in the trailer and the bed of the truck and stay under his legal ratings.
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Old 08-14-2018, 02:23 PM   #10
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Yes, TV is full of lawyer ads--ever seen a factual, documented incident of overweight RVs getting the owner sued/criminally charged?
Or ins co denying coverage due to incident of over ratings?
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