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Old 08-06-2018, 03:42 PM   #1
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Appalling build quality

Just purchased a 2017 Crusader 30BH and the chassis is already rusty.

Our old 2014 Hobby caravan shows no signs of rust the chassis is galvanised.

Do they build these things to last for just 4-5 years...... why so bad?

Are they all the same?

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Old 08-06-2018, 05:21 PM   #2
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I suppose depending on where it was built, when it was transported and in what kind of weather all plays a part in rusting. I saw a 2 year old trailer frame almost rust through from being just parked near the ocean. If you want to keep it from getting any worst, try cleaning with a wire brush and putting on a product called POR-15 (paint over rust) works fantastic.
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Old 08-07-2018, 03:16 AM   #3
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Fact remains the basic product is rubbish. A simple hot dip galvanised chassis would solve the problem. They don't make them to last they make them to trash. There are areas you cannot get to with the insulation covering the chassis beams. Even the paint they use to coat the metal is of the lowest possible quality. The Crusader is our first 5th wheel but compared to the build of the European RVs and caravans they are appalling. There is not much choice in Europe for a similar vehicle. Come on Guys tell the manufacturers don't just get the wire brush and paint out.
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Old 08-07-2018, 10:50 AM   #4
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Your complaint is industry-wide, as to quality of construction. Isn't going to change as long as they are selling 500k units/year.
Do more online research on next purchase paying attention to owners forums for quality comments.
Just paying more does not necessarily get you different results.
And trying to compare European standards to US standards for RVs isn't apples to apples...but check what they pay for them in US dollars?
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Old 08-10-2018, 05:43 AM   #5
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Crash, here is a nice RV made in England. Handy tow-behind in the 16 foot range. Uh, no air, but it has a galvanized frame. Only $33,000. Maybe they could make one for you in the 38 foot range.

http://www.doityourselfrv.com/egg-sh...efoot-caravan/
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Old 08-10-2018, 06:15 AM   #6
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All caravans in Europe have a Galvanised chassis as standard. There is a Manufacturer in the UK but very expensive and limited layout. see http://fifthwheelco.com/celtic-rambler/
So we have to put up with the poor quality USA stuff and wow they are always so dark inside.
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:27 AM   #7
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Crash, this little thing has one slide, costs start at 52K pounds and has a cassette toilet? Really? At today's exchange that is going to top 75K and that was just to start. All that to get a galvanized frame? Dealers couldn't sell even ONE in the US.
https://www.caravanguard.co.uk/news/...mendment-6913/
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:53 AM   #8
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Yes I know that but a 2009 model still fetches very good money if the spec is what you want. Just galvanizing a chassis might add $100.00 to a USA build.

They are selling rubbish and it's time you told them.

Even on Youtube they say the basic build quality of the 5th wheel units is bad no matter what you pay! Please note I have purchased a Crusader 30BH here in the UK as there is such limited manufacturing and spec. but I'm not looking forward to repainting the chassis.
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Old 08-11-2018, 11:23 AM   #9
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I was in the construction business for years and frequently used a local galvanizer for builds. No way in hell would you even get someone to talk to you for $100. Maybe $3500 for a frame. European standards also are meaningless here. Same for Australian, since they are mentioned so frequently. People want bigger and better equipped.
Surface rust is meaningless anyway.

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Old 08-11-2018, 11:58 AM   #10
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I take your point Bill but even the paint they use is cheap and nasty. There is no need to produce such a poorly finished product that rusts after 12 months. Its great pity as the new shells of the units seem to be sound with roofs guaranteed 12 years. Am I the only person to look underneath?

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