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Old 06-21-2018, 08:43 PM   #21
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Mine came in at 16,800 dry and a GVWR of 19000. Some of that weight was the fiberglass roof, 6 batteries, W/D prep, Gen and solar prep. I called my rep at DRV and complained that if I had them install the W/D, Generator, and solar panels, it would have been overweight coming out the door. He did not want to discuss it.
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Old 06-21-2018, 09:33 PM   #22
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Mine came in at 16,800 dry and a GVWR of 19000. Some of that weight was the fiberglass roof, 6 batteries, W/D prep, Gen and solar prep. I called my rep at DRV and complained that if I had them install the W/D, Generator, and solar panels, it would have been overweight coming out the door. He did not want to discuss it.
If I'm correct you have installed solar and dkne a bunch ofnupgrades, how is your weight now? Did it come with 9000lb suspension setup ? What floor plan?

We are working on a 40KSSB4 and will the washer dryer, extra batteries, fiberglass roof, a 3rd AC and solar. Are we setting ourselves up for failing? We fulltime so we will have that going against us weight wise as well.
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Old 06-21-2018, 09:45 PM   #23
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I have a 2017 36RSSB3 with 8000 pound axles. Prior to solar, fully loaded and ready to travel, my weight was 18,200; ~3800 of that was pin wright. I’ve weighed mine 3 times in the past year. I recommend that everyone get their rig to a certified scale.
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Old 06-21-2018, 10:09 PM   #24
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I agree, every time we do anything major we get weighed but we are in a 42' class A and Even if I fill up with water I don't think we have enough empty space in our rig to go over weight lol. It sounds like that will NOT be the case with a 5th wheel. But maybe the 9000lb rated Mor-ride I would be ok. I don't want to start worrying about weight after fulltiming for almost 6 years never having to worry about it.
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Old 06-22-2018, 10:18 AM   #25
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If I'm correct you have installed solar and dkne a bunch ofnupgrades, how is your weight now? Did it come with 9000lb suspension setup ? What floor plan?

We are working on a 40KSSB4 and will the washer dryer, extra batteries, fiberglass roof, a 3rd AC and solar. Are we setting ourselves up for failing? We fulltime so we will have that going against us weight wise as well.

My opinion is forget the fiberglass roof. I have NEWER had a problem with a rubber roof and they have a much longer warranty that fiberglass.

I believe they make a 9.4, that is what I would order.

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Old 06-22-2018, 11:46 AM   #26
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When I was at MOR/ryde in March, the suspensions available were 8, 8.4 and 9K (with 10K rated brakes)

I’m glad we went with the 3AC’s although so far I don’t think 3 have been on at the same time.

But whenever the AC’s have run (mostly the rear unit) they have been excellent, and quiet. I can finally watch TV and hear it.

Fiberglass roof - supplied by DRV, so only the basic warranty. Rubber roof, supplied by a vendor and under their warranty of 15 - 20 years or whatever it is.

Never checked the fine print on the rubber roof.

After tagging a tree branch with our previous trailer and damaging 20’ of the roof corner, I was pleased to be able to order the fiberglass roof.

Now that I have it, if I had to do a repair I would prefer the fiberglass. And that tree branch probably would have done nothing more then scuff the corner.
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Old 06-22-2018, 12:15 PM   #27
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"And that tree branch probably would have done nothing more then scuff the corner."

That is a good reason for fiberglass. At the time Alicia could not recommend because of issues at that time.
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Old 06-24-2018, 12:12 PM   #28
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Found a picture of why I went for the fiberglass and the extra weight, If there is much of difference in weight I can’t find any info on it.
The fiberglass layup is not that thick.

This is about 20’ and I never felt it. Didn’t even see it for a week.
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Old 06-24-2018, 07:11 PM   #29
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I'm told the fiberglass roof adds 500lbs.
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Old 06-24-2018, 07:51 PM   #30
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It should be interesting for us if we switch to a 5th wheel. From what info I have our coach weighed 32741 dry and the last time we weighed Within the last year we weighed 36800 so we have added roughly 4059lbs.
Keep in mind we upgraded batteries to 6 AGM's that weigh 90lbs each compared to the roughly 60lbs the old 6 weighed so that's, well not much LOL 180lbs. And we added 8 solar panels to the roof at 39.7lbs so that's 318lbs plus the goodies that go with the system.
At the time of weighing we had about 20 gallons of water in our tank which is about how we travel all the time and the grey & black tanks were empty like normal on travel days.
We added other things like wheel covers, windshield and side window covers ect. but we will have things like that in a 5th wheel to so with that said we probably will push the limits of a 40KSSB4.
We also added a 2nd sat antenna, a DTV Traveler which makes a dome that came with the coach and the traveler up on the roof.
The rep told me it should ship at just under 18,000lbs and have a GVWR of 22,000.
In our current coach we still have over 7000lbs we can carry before we hit our max and I can't imagine how we could possibly do that LOL!!
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Old 06-25-2018, 06:19 AM   #31
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Hdrider, just to help you out a little I'll tell you what we had in our Raptor when it sold. We had the Raptor for 3 years, pretty much living full time in it and travelling extensively. We had no water in the tank, and all holding tanks empty. The motorcycle and all biking equipment was removed. At that point we rolled over the Cat scale and headed home to unload. We unloaded the entire RV, did our final cleaning and headed back to the Cat scale an then to the new owner. We had built up 1,960 pounds of "stuff" in those years to drag around with us. I simply cannot tell you where it all came from nor what it was, just "stuff."
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Old 06-25-2018, 05:10 PM   #32
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2016 Elite 38PS3 weighs 20700# with 4750# pin weight. Have W/D, generator, 14 gal gas tank in belly, 4 AGM batteries, 2800 watt inverter. Travel with 20 gallons of H2O.
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Old 06-25-2018, 05:14 PM   #33
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Found a picture of why I went for the fiberglass and the extra weight, If there is much of difference in weight I can’t find any info on it.
The fiberglass layup is not that thick.

This is about 20’ and I never felt it. Didn’t even see it for a week.
Dwayne Kazmierczak, DRV regional sales manager, told me specifically that the fiberglass roof added 300 pounds. It was reiterated when I complained about the 16300 delivered weight.
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Old 06-25-2018, 07:28 PM   #34
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Dwayne Kazmierczak, DRV regional sales manager, told me specifically that the fiberglass roof added 300 pounds. It was reiterated when I complained about the 16300 delivered weight.
If Ihad a 16,300 delivered weight I’d be jumping through hoops
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Old 06-25-2018, 07:52 PM   #35
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LOL; you ordered the BIGGER, HEAVIER, LONGER, MORE LOADED, coach. You got what you paid for.
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Old 06-25-2018, 08:37 PM   #36
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Question for you fulltimers in 40' rigs or close. Or you snowbirds that load up for the winters. What are your pin weights?
No matter the weight of your rig it is designed to have 20 to 25% of the gross weight on the king pin for towing stability. If you are needing this info to determine truck capability you should use 25% of the trailers MGWR as the maximum pin weight. My trailer weighs 20580 my actual pin weight is 4210 lbs..
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Old 06-25-2018, 10:27 PM   #37
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2011 DRV Mobile Suites 36RSSB3 with vanity slide. Pin weight has been 3,863 and 4,020 depending on the stuff in the basement. Added Goodyear LT tires, an extra house battery, Magnum 2000 Pure sine inverter and a Samsung residential refer while in Elk City at Rolling Retreats. Try to keep about 25 gallons of water in the tank in case we need to do a quick overnight dry camp due to weather or other issues.
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Old 06-25-2018, 11:22 PM   #38
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Thanks again for all the comments.
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