[terry and jo]

Joe,

I "double-nut" two of the knurled nuts onto the machine thread end. Since the threads go all the way through the nuts, it is easy to kind of tighten them against each other. Then, I use a pair of pliers to grip both nuts to screw in the hanger screws. Since the pressure of the nuts against each other prevent the hanger screw from turning within the nuts, it works pretty easy.

Just be careful to NOT tighten the two nuts against each other too tight as the threads in both the nuts and on the hanger screws aren't all that big and strong.

To make it easier, I drilled pilot holes for the hanger screws up and into the wood block that is the "back block" up in the ceiling.

Once I've inserted both hanger screws as I've described, then I separate the nuts and place one on each screw.

The biggest issue I have had in doing this is that once I've put the screws into the wood, I might have to bend one or both a bit to be able to get them through the holes in the grill cover.

I'm not the world's straightest "driller" and "screw inserter."

Terry